Well, who is going to be president?
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Where is the little smiley opening up a can of worms??????? :rotflmao1:
I am not very politically minded, and didn't even register to vote until I "had" to when I became a notary. (You can stone me all you want, I just don't feel that my one vote matters AT ALL)
I see Obama riding into office on the wave of "change" like Clinton did 16 years ago, and I won't mind.
The McCain/Palin ticket seems to have SO much drama associated with it already.
I personally will just be happy when I can sit down and watch TV without campaign commercials.
I am not very politically minded, and didn't even register to vote until I "had" to when I became a notary. (You can stone me all you want, I just don't feel that my one vote matters AT ALL)
I see Obama riding into office on the wave of "change" like Clinton did 16 years ago, and I won't mind.
The McCain/Palin ticket seems to have SO much drama associated with it already.
I personally will just be happy when I can sit down and watch TV without campaign commercials.
I second that, kiteri. I am so sick of the smear campaigns on television.
I also think Obama/ Biden will win the election. Palin seems to be a puppet on a string and some of the remarks made recently by her were definitely put in her mouth by someone else. She's a follower and not a leader and if something were to happen to McCain, there is no way she could be an effective president. I wouldn't consider myself a supporter of Obama but he does seem to be the lesser of two evils at this point. I like Biden and his lengthy record as a senator but I still have some hang-ups on Obama's ideas.
Either way it goes, I'm betting the winner will not get re-elected to a second term. The U.S. is in such a mess that no one can clean it up and voters will be ready for another change in 4 years.
I also think Obama/ Biden will win the election. Palin seems to be a puppet on a string and some of the remarks made recently by her were definitely put in her mouth by someone else. She's a follower and not a leader and if something were to happen to McCain, there is no way she could be an effective president. I wouldn't consider myself a supporter of Obama but he does seem to be the lesser of two evils at this point. I like Biden and his lengthy record as a senator but I still have some hang-ups on Obama's ideas.
Either way it goes, I'm betting the winner will not get re-elected to a second term. The U.S. is in such a mess that no one can clean it up and voters will be ready for another change in 4 years.
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I've been following your politics for some time. Believe it or not, your election has a big impact here in Canada. I know who I would like to get in and I hoping he does. It's time for change that's for sure. We have an election here as well but our campaigns don't last as long as they do in the US. Wow. Here it's a couple of months at the most. and as you say, I vote for the party I dislike the least. To be honest, everyone here has both feet in their mouths right now and they're rambling on like a bunch of fools. It's annoying. Next week it's all over and someone else will be in power to screw everything up. LOL.
I did find this funny though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6urw_PWHYk
I did find this funny though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6urw_PWHYk
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No matter what the "brilliant" Matt Damon says, anybody that has made it to 72 and been cancer free for 9 years, has a better chance to survive the next 4 years then a skinny 46 year old who still smokes (which he admitted this week).
That said, it's been 24 years since I was able to vote for a president without holding my nose when I pulled the lever, and it's not changing this year. I believe both parties have screwed everything up - I'm happy that one of my Senators didn't vote for the bailout. I'm not happy with the choice on the republican side, but I don't want to see someone as liberal as Obama in the White House. Taxing anybody hurts everybody.
Don't expect Hillary to sit back and let him win - she doesn't want him in the White House anymore than she wanted Kerry in 2004. She would much rather not run against an incumbent democrat in 4 years.
Off my soapbox now - let's talk camping :yippie:
That said, it's been 24 years since I was able to vote for a president without holding my nose when I pulled the lever, and it's not changing this year. I believe both parties have screwed everything up - I'm happy that one of my Senators didn't vote for the bailout. I'm not happy with the choice on the republican side, but I don't want to see someone as liberal as Obama in the White House. Taxing anybody hurts everybody.
Don't expect Hillary to sit back and let him win - she doesn't want him in the White House anymore than she wanted Kerry in 2004. She would much rather not run against an incumbent democrat in 4 years.
Off my soapbox now - let's talk camping :yippie:
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oh brother
man man man, here we go :scratchhead:
I believe nObama will win, without a doubt. Opps, did I spell that wrong? :shrug: I will not be happy about it, personally.
I definitely am ready for change as most are, but I believe that McCain will bring that change. It has been stated about Palin being one heartbeat away from being president and that its "scary". Could be, however I am willing to risk that versus Obama being president from day 1. That is scarier to me.
The choice of Palin, that is still a mystery to me. I personally think that was a political move and an attempt at winning Hillary's votes away from Obama. But, Biden is a veteran at talks, debate, etc... Yeah, he tears her up in debates, because he is very comfortable in that role, she isnt. I think she could bring some good things to the table to help this country, but will admit its a little scary if something happened to McCain.
I do not personally feel we can back out in "defeat" from what we started with Iraq. I hate losing our troops, and know some over there, but the job needs to be completed, IMO.
I am very opposed to universal health care, something antigua probably knows about in CA.
taxes situation, ughh :smack-head:
I also feel if (when) this great land is under attack, I want a true patriot leading the pack, and there is only one that qualifies for that role. Thats all I have to say about that.
There are both parties involved with the mess we are in, no doubt. However, many still praise clinton, as times were good then, but some changes made under his power (as well as Carter) have showed their ugly head since Bush came into office, and of course he gets the blame for it. And I know Bush isnt perfect either, not saying that.
Without a doubt, there is going to be no hiding this term. The new pres. is going to succeed or fail at turning this economy around, and they are going to be to blame or reward. Regardless of how we got here, we have to get out. I will be happy to praise either, republican or democrat, if they do so.
ok ok ok, i am done
man man man, here we go :scratchhead:
I believe nObama will win, without a doubt. Opps, did I spell that wrong? :shrug: I will not be happy about it, personally.
I definitely am ready for change as most are, but I believe that McCain will bring that change. It has been stated about Palin being one heartbeat away from being president and that its "scary". Could be, however I am willing to risk that versus Obama being president from day 1. That is scarier to me.
The choice of Palin, that is still a mystery to me. I personally think that was a political move and an attempt at winning Hillary's votes away from Obama. But, Biden is a veteran at talks, debate, etc... Yeah, he tears her up in debates, because he is very comfortable in that role, she isnt. I think she could bring some good things to the table to help this country, but will admit its a little scary if something happened to McCain.
I do not personally feel we can back out in "defeat" from what we started with Iraq. I hate losing our troops, and know some over there, but the job needs to be completed, IMO.
I am very opposed to universal health care, something antigua probably knows about in CA.
taxes situation, ughh :smack-head:
I also feel if (when) this great land is under attack, I want a true patriot leading the pack, and there is only one that qualifies for that role. Thats all I have to say about that.
There are both parties involved with the mess we are in, no doubt. However, many still praise clinton, as times were good then, but some changes made under his power (as well as Carter) have showed their ugly head since Bush came into office, and of course he gets the blame for it. And I know Bush isnt perfect either, not saying that.
Without a doubt, there is going to be no hiding this term. The new pres. is going to succeed or fail at turning this economy around, and they are going to be to blame or reward. Regardless of how we got here, we have to get out. I will be happy to praise either, republican or democrat, if they do so.
ok ok ok, i am done
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Well, I think I will stay out of this one 
I just hope no matter what, things get turned around. Thats what we need no matter what or who.
I just hope no matter what, things get turned around. Thats what we need no matter what or who.
I hadnt seen that clip Shane, wow!
I can agree, its a little scary with Palin being president. BUT, that is a possibility that may never happen, and what scares me more is Obama being president from day one. I wont get into specifics. I wouldnt say I am democrat or republican 100% either, I am for who is going to do best by our country, period. I think that is the problem with most, especially now, they vote for who mom and dad and grandad said they should vote for. Ask them why, if they have good reasons, than great, thats what they believe in. Most probably cant tell you why in the end, which is just sad. All they know is mom/dad voted that way, and thats what I should do/
I had to forget all that and research and decide who I thought was best. I think everyone should. Sorry for the ramble. I just really think this could be one of the biggest elections the USA has ever seen, and hope the majority makes the right decision.
I can agree, its a little scary with Palin being president. BUT, that is a possibility that may never happen, and what scares me more is Obama being president from day one. I wont get into specifics. I wouldnt say I am democrat or republican 100% either, I am for who is going to do best by our country, period. I think that is the problem with most, especially now, they vote for who mom and dad and grandad said they should vote for. Ask them why, if they have good reasons, than great, thats what they believe in. Most probably cant tell you why in the end, which is just sad. All they know is mom/dad voted that way, and thats what I should do/
I had to forget all that and research and decide who I thought was best. I think everyone should. Sorry for the ramble. I just really think this could be one of the biggest elections the USA has ever seen, and hope the majority makes the right decision.
Well, I must say, I moderate several political forums, and this is the most adult, lighthearted discussion I have seen. Congratulations.
I'm not an economist, but I can tell you this problem started back in the 70's...was severely compounded in 99'...and further complicated in 2003 when the "credit default swaps" were taken from the regulation of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. This was done by congress ladies and gentlemen...not the president, who repeatedly tried to tighten up these liberal banking practices.
As for the election...I am a republican. But...I will support the Commander and Chief that is elected. I wouldn't bad mouth an American President regardless of how I felt about him/her. I couldn't care less if we have a black president, a woman president, or a black woman president. I just don't feel Obama is the right black woman for the office. McCain is a tried and true war hero, and has proved his metal. He IS very old. But he has proven his character. But I will support whomever the American people elect. Because I am an American BEFORE I am a party member.
Another week or so, and the issue will be settled. God Bless the United States. We need it regardless of who wins.
I'm not an economist, but I can tell you this problem started back in the 70's...was severely compounded in 99'...and further complicated in 2003 when the "credit default swaps" were taken from the regulation of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. This was done by congress ladies and gentlemen...not the president, who repeatedly tried to tighten up these liberal banking practices.
As for the election...I am a republican. But...I will support the Commander and Chief that is elected. I wouldn't bad mouth an American President regardless of how I felt about him/her. I couldn't care less if we have a black president, a woman president, or a black woman president. I just don't feel Obama is the right black woman for the office. McCain is a tried and true war hero, and has proved his metal. He IS very old. But he has proven his character. But I will support whomever the American people elect. Because I am an American BEFORE I am a party member.
Another week or so, and the issue will be settled. God Bless the United States. We need it regardless of who wins.
:rotflmao1: That is too funny!
I know what you mean about other political forums, xisle. One I have been visiting gets downright ugly at times.
Yes indeedy. Some of those political forums are fierce and merciless for those that haven't done their research. And exasperating for those of us that have. People have taken hard-lined posturing to new levels, and are not easily swayed one way or the other, regardless of the evidence. There comes a point when one just has to walk away before it gets ridiculous. This election, the White House appears to be important to EVERYONE. Even if they can't tell you what color it is.
I'll be going to the polls Tuesday. I don't know why I like to wait until the last minute. I KNOW who I am voting for, even if they murder someone between now and then. I guess I just like the 4th and the tradition of the lines, the debates, and the tailgate atmosphere awaiting the results. I'll be watching the numbers roll in for the next 24 hours, drinking beer and praying profusely. It's a good combination, because I pray on my knees, and don't have as far to fall when I've drank too much. j/k. (I literally have democrats yelling at me right now, so....gotta go).
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